Administrator2
11-18 09:46 AM
Blacktongue : There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned. Chey Chey.:)
"There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned."
This may sound optimistic and promising, but in essence sending random rhetoric using off message statements like "Erase Backlog Now" conflicts with our targeted messaging. To the observer on the Hill (i.e. in Congress) it all sounds more like a noise without a coherent message.
I'm sure you would agree that "no harm in trying" and "Leave no stone unturned" doesn't mean diluting our effort or sending incoherent message. That is why we need to have a single voice sending the same targeted message each time, otherwise we will just sound like awkward noise.
"There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned."
This may sound optimistic and promising, but in essence sending random rhetoric using off message statements like "Erase Backlog Now" conflicts with our targeted messaging. To the observer on the Hill (i.e. in Congress) it all sounds more like a noise without a coherent message.
I'm sure you would agree that "no harm in trying" and "Leave no stone unturned" doesn't mean diluting our effort or sending incoherent message. That is why we need to have a single voice sending the same targeted message each time, otherwise we will just sound like awkward noise.
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drona
08-31 08:01 PM
There are people willing to provide sponsorship for airfare and accomodation. We have students flying with us from California because they were able to get sponsorship. Try and make it.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12441
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12441
gsc999
07-11 12:35 PM
Is it legal? There could be a law written in the 1800s that bans something like this. Please confirm. Things like burning stuff have a tendency to go out of hand and create larger problems. IMHO, more peaceful means would be better.
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Nah, we have better things to do than burn something.
Also, we don't want to add to the already hot weather in California and to global warming at large. We need cool ideas not hot headed remarks. :) I like the flower idea better
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Nah, we have better things to do than burn something.
Also, we don't want to add to the already hot weather in California and to global warming at large. We need cool ideas not hot headed remarks. :) I like the flower idea better
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snathan
11-19 04:16 PM
Question to IV core...
After receiving the standard email respose from the congressman/senator...I am wondering are they even aware about the legal immigrants. All we are getting the standard template which is talking about only illegals and DREAM.
No mention about legals ?
After receiving the standard email respose from the congressman/senator...I am wondering are they even aware about the legal immigrants. All we are getting the standard template which is talking about only illegals and DREAM.
No mention about legals ?
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02-09 04:03 PM
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GCStatus
09-14 04:41 PM
LAST BUT NOT LEAST
Guys, If some one wants to discourage us or post anything other than words of caution or advise. Please refrain from doing that. We want people to stay positive and throw more positive energy to this thread.[/QUOTE]
You the MAN
Guys, If some one wants to discourage us or post anything other than words of caution or advise. Please refrain from doing that. We want people to stay positive and throw more positive energy to this thread.[/QUOTE]
You the MAN
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jessie1981
06-12 12:07 PM
I-485 approved in 11 days????? How can this be possible? Or you mean to say that they had filed the 485 before retrogression hit? Please clarify.
Oh, yes. They filed 140/485 before retrogression hit. Most of them got second FP last month.
Oh, yes. They filed 140/485 before retrogression hit. Most of them got second FP last month.
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07-02 08:43 AM
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desi3933
07-08 01:20 PM
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponsor.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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immi_enthu
08-27 12:31 PM
Reached NSC on July 3rd 11:14 am. No receipts yet.
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07-05 11:59 AM
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knnmbd
05-03 10:53 AM
I don't mean this to be subjective. Earlier, I hv also seen a few others raise this question on the Advanced Degrees and exemptions.
Master's Degree in the US from an accredited Instituiton plus three years of related Work experience but the employer may have chosen to file under EB3. In my case, my employer does not acknowledge the Advanced Degree indicating that the position for which the labor was granted for did not warrant a Master's Degree.
What are my options for availing the SKIL or STEM/PACE provisions? I seem to meet all clauses to be deemed portable. Can I port to a different employer who may be able to further the process through these provisions, as and when they come into effect and continue being on EB3, but being exempt from the limit? Does this shake the grounds of the labor approval (for EB3 and the position not mandating an Advanced Degree)? Am I stuck? I have even considered changing my category to EB2 and being able to avail the priority date...
The Master's degree + 3 years experience will be a requirement that the USCIS will have to be exempt from the cap. It does not matter if you�re employer has filed with min. requirement as say a B.S + 2 years exp. When you hit the 3 years of experience in related field and ALSO previously have a M.S degree from the U.S university you will be able to file for your I485 regardless of whether your initial LC said that the min. qualification for job said just a B.S. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Master's Degree in the US from an accredited Instituiton plus three years of related Work experience but the employer may have chosen to file under EB3. In my case, my employer does not acknowledge the Advanced Degree indicating that the position for which the labor was granted for did not warrant a Master's Degree.
What are my options for availing the SKIL or STEM/PACE provisions? I seem to meet all clauses to be deemed portable. Can I port to a different employer who may be able to further the process through these provisions, as and when they come into effect and continue being on EB3, but being exempt from the limit? Does this shake the grounds of the labor approval (for EB3 and the position not mandating an Advanced Degree)? Am I stuck? I have even considered changing my category to EB2 and being able to avail the priority date...
The Master's degree + 3 years experience will be a requirement that the USCIS will have to be exempt from the cap. It does not matter if you�re employer has filed with min. requirement as say a B.S + 2 years exp. When you hit the 3 years of experience in related field and ALSO previously have a M.S degree from the U.S university you will be able to file for your I485 regardless of whether your initial LC said that the min. qualification for job said just a B.S. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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GreenMe
07-06 03:30 PM
Alright friends, so we now have a lead item on Times of India on this effort.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-2183334,prtpage-1.cms
Can we now have some of the Nays turn into Ayes? We now have proof that this effort is attracting media's attention, we now have proof that it is viable. Can we please make it a smashing success by getting great numbers?
Whoever put this on TOI did a awesome job ... great work guys ... this is absolutely amazing ... Thanks to everyone ...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-2183334,prtpage-1.cms
Can we now have some of the Nays turn into Ayes? We now have proof that this effort is attracting media's attention, we now have proof that it is viable. Can we please make it a smashing success by getting great numbers?
Whoever put this on TOI did a awesome job ... great work guys ... this is absolutely amazing ... Thanks to everyone ...
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a_yaja
06-26 02:44 PM
"Until and after 1 year" - how does it save me - the word "until"
please explain for me - Thanks Much ?
You can quit after six months and then if taken to a court of law, you can tell the court that the employer refused to give you employment letter and under duress, you were forced to sign the letter. Your other option was to pack bags and leave the country if the employer did not give you the letter. And you can argue that the law lets you change employer after 180 days and hence you are not breaking the law. You can also argue that if the employer had not acted in bad faith by refusing to give you employment letter, you would have continued to work for the employer.
Ofcourse, you will need a very good lawyer if you want to fight the case on moral grounds (because it may be more expensive to fight the case than just pay the amount agreed to in the letter).
please explain for me - Thanks Much ?
You can quit after six months and then if taken to a court of law, you can tell the court that the employer refused to give you employment letter and under duress, you were forced to sign the letter. Your other option was to pack bags and leave the country if the employer did not give you the letter. And you can argue that the law lets you change employer after 180 days and hence you are not breaking the law. You can also argue that if the employer had not acted in bad faith by refusing to give you employment letter, you would have continued to work for the employer.
Ofcourse, you will need a very good lawyer if you want to fight the case on moral grounds (because it may be more expensive to fight the case than just pay the amount agreed to in the letter).
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kshitijnt
05-01 11:56 PM
even if yu have got a red dot for some stupid reason I was strongly tempted to give yu ared dot for this reply. If not let the administrators give yu one................
Why arent you tempted to give me green though :)
Why arent you tempted to give me green though :)
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desi3933
07-10 03:37 PM
....
That's where AC21 comes to rescue, and you can become "self-employed" rather than "unemployed." Question is, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation as your I-140 petition be considered to satisfy I-140 requirement?....
Yes, one can be self-employed for AC-21 job, as long as conditions mentioned in the same memo are fulfilled
"Question 8. Can an alien port to self-employment under INA �204(j)?
Answer: Yes, as long as the requirements are met. First, the key is whether the employment is in a "same or similar" occupational classification as the job for which the original I-140 petition was filed. Second, it may be appropriate to confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information about these issues. ...... "
That's where AC21 comes to rescue, and you can become "self-employed" rather than "unemployed." Question is, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation as your I-140 petition be considered to satisfy I-140 requirement?....
Yes, one can be self-employed for AC-21 job, as long as conditions mentioned in the same memo are fulfilled
"Question 8. Can an alien port to self-employment under INA �204(j)?
Answer: Yes, as long as the requirements are met. First, the key is whether the employment is in a "same or similar" occupational classification as the job for which the original I-140 petition was filed. Second, it may be appropriate to confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information about these issues. ...... "
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go_gc_way
10-22 01:44 PM
Of all the threads , I found this is one of the most relevant threads discussing our problem..
So there will be a lame duck session where at our retrogression problem will be discussed again. And chances of passing a relief are tough.
What is economic recession's impact on retrogression when is it predicted , does any one know?
So there will be a lame duck session where at our retrogression problem will be discussed again. And chances of passing a relief are tough.
What is economic recession's impact on retrogression when is it predicted , does any one know?
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GCKaIntezar
06-07 11:21 AM
reddymjm,
I will have to check with my attorney. But, my I-140 approval came from TSC but my I-485 application was sent to NSC.
If anyone else has had a similar experience, please post your update here.
Thanks.
Per my attorney - If the I140 approval came from TSC, you can send your AOS to TSC directly. Hope this helps.
I will have to check with my attorney. But, my I-140 approval came from TSC but my I-485 application was sent to NSC.
If anyone else has had a similar experience, please post your update here.
Thanks.
Per my attorney - If the I140 approval came from TSC, you can send your AOS to TSC directly. Hope this helps.
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mariusp
02-15 08:04 AM
No FP yet... NSC Received Date July 12, 2007 - Notice Date TSC Sept. 10, 2007. All in all, almost 6 months and no sign of a biometrics appointment... bummer.
hiUS
09-08 02:09 PM
I actually spoke to Customer service and I got 2 very different responses.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
As you said, please post your experience with Infopass tomorrow. It will be helpful.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
As you said, please post your experience with Infopass tomorrow. It will be helpful.
royus77
07-11 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by conchshell
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about. :D.......
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about. :D.......
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