eager_immi
02-11 08:47 AM
They don't listen to anyone they are answerable to why would they listen to people with least amount if rights.
The Judicial system is run by Bush and et al..they wont listen to soemone who they are not answerable to.
The Judicial system is run by Bush and et al..they wont listen to soemone who they are not answerable to.
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chanduv23
06-06 11:34 PM
Hi
I am trying to do a H1B transfer from my current employer.I am searching for a good employer(consulting firm) in Atlanta,GA area..
Can anyone advise me on a good employer.I heard that Pyramid Consulting is one big vendor in atlanta..Any inputs about Pyramid is greatly appreciated..Or any other good vendors in atlanta area?
Thanks
kp
If you are using AC21, why falling into this consulting trap again? Unless they find you a project, why go behind them? Doing a h1b transfer through a consulting company may look like a safety net but it obviously has its own set of problems. AC21 works just fine and one need not worry too much about it. A lot of people using AC21 and want to work on contract jobs actually contract out through their own corp.
I am trying to do a H1B transfer from my current employer.I am searching for a good employer(consulting firm) in Atlanta,GA area..
Can anyone advise me on a good employer.I heard that Pyramid Consulting is one big vendor in atlanta..Any inputs about Pyramid is greatly appreciated..Or any other good vendors in atlanta area?
Thanks
kp
If you are using AC21, why falling into this consulting trap again? Unless they find you a project, why go behind them? Doing a h1b transfer through a consulting company may look like a safety net but it obviously has its own set of problems. AC21 works just fine and one need not worry too much about it. A lot of people using AC21 and want to work on contract jobs actually contract out through their own corp.
India_USA
04-23 09:13 AM
1) if quarterly soillover is a law and USCIS not doing it they are doing something against the law so we can file a lawsuit against it but again how can we prove that they are not doing quarterly spillover.
USCIS says its happening......
2) If USCIS doesnt use full numbers assigned for Green Cards and waste them you can again sue them for that but will it be succesfull or not that has to be researched.
USCIS has not wasted visas in the past two years............
3) That H1b employee - employer relation memo is a best example to file a lawsuit against them as there interpratation of the law was completely wrong but noone did it.
I read somewhere about the memo being withdrawn for more review.............
Finding a judge who will be favorable to our cause, priceless!!
USCIS says its happening......
2) If USCIS doesnt use full numbers assigned for Green Cards and waste them you can again sue them for that but will it be succesfull or not that has to be researched.
USCIS has not wasted visas in the past two years............
3) That H1b employee - employer relation memo is a best example to file a lawsuit against them as there interpratation of the law was completely wrong but noone did it.
I read somewhere about the memo being withdrawn for more review.............
Finding a judge who will be favorable to our cause, priceless!!
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immiusa
06-15 06:01 PM
Your parents do not need A/V letter. They can supplement last 3 months of statements. If you still want to give a try. You can ask bank manager to send a letter with current amount on your A/C to the address mentioned on your A/C. which means, they are sending the information to the addressee on the A/C.
If I were you, I would wait until your job is done. Then, close the A/C with a reason specified "Not happy with service".
It will be helpful if you can mention the bank name on this forum for all our immigrant community.
If I were you, I would wait until your job is done. Then, close the A/C with a reason specified "Not happy with service".
It will be helpful if you can mention the bank name on this forum for all our immigrant community.
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Lucky7
12-04 08:24 AM
I am a Commercial/Industrial Architect and have allready had to turn down 2 jobs this year making double what i make here in hicksville Fresno CA due to the fact that i do not have a green card.
As far as the investor visa,i have looked into this too with my attorney and i am not elligible,even though i have the funds,due to the fact that my previous attorney did not file my papers on time in 2000 and therfore had to refile under 245i in 2001 and i am paying the price along with 30 other clients of the crooked attorney who ran away to another state.
My earnings this yr were above your guys fugures but Uncle Sam takes a very large chunk due to being single,no real estate in my name and no tax write offs.
As far as the investor visa,i have looked into this too with my attorney and i am not elligible,even though i have the funds,due to the fact that my previous attorney did not file my papers on time in 2000 and therfore had to refile under 245i in 2001 and i am paying the price along with 30 other clients of the crooked attorney who ran away to another state.
My earnings this yr were above your guys fugures but Uncle Sam takes a very large chunk due to being single,no real estate in my name and no tax write offs.
anurag
02-12 02:13 PM
Jonty,
But the question is how do we change it when I-485 has already been applied. Is there a form for it? Or just a letter with what details attached?
Regards,
Anurag
But the question is how do we change it when I-485 has already been applied. Is there a form for it? Or just a letter with what details attached?
Regards,
Anurag
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gcformeornot
01-11 04:26 PM
I was laid off this week. I have been trying to find job and i feel its not going to be easy to find a job. If thing wont work by April, I m thinking to move back India.
PD : EB2 I - OCT 2004
I140 approved, I 485 pending > 180 days. On EAD
50 Dollars monthy contribution to IV.
about your situation. I have a friend, his company has said if they don't find project in a week, they will have to move him back. And its not a small company. Its like no 3 Indian software comapny
PD : EB2 I - OCT 2004
I140 approved, I 485 pending > 180 days. On EAD
50 Dollars monthy contribution to IV.
about your situation. I have a friend, his company has said if they don't find project in a week, they will have to move him back. And its not a small company. Its like no 3 Indian software comapny
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diptam
08-03 07:33 PM
You are OK as long is 140 is approved and 180 days have passed since Filing 485... BUT
if yor employer get to know your intention and cancel 140 between 180 and 200 days before 140 is approved , you are screwed...
Thanks,
I 140 and 485 filed concurrently.
Let's say I 140 is approved after 200 (greater than 180) days, If employer revokes I 140 after 230 days (let's say he is pissed off that i left the company using Ac 21 portability)
will it create any issue for my GC ?
if yor employer get to know your intention and cancel 140 between 180 and 200 days before 140 is approved , you are screwed...
Thanks,
I 140 and 485 filed concurrently.
Let's say I 140 is approved after 200 (greater than 180) days, If employer revokes I 140 after 230 days (let's say he is pissed off that i left the company using Ac 21 portability)
will it create any issue for my GC ?
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gk_2000
04-30 12:23 AM
May be 10% might have become entrepreneurs...? Definitely not everyone has started a 10person or even 1 person company....People are doing good but they just work as programmers or so called project managers...you know its not a big deal to become a Project manager in India..
But 150K entrepreneurs...:p
I have not read that report completely, but ...
1. GC Vovek seems to say there was not a single person who left US to become an entrepreneur. This is not true 100% sure
2. The 150k might be spread over last 20 years, or 10 years at least, or ever since the backlogs became an issue. This means the figure drops to about 15k per year, which sounds much more plausible
The answer may well lie somewhere in between..
But 150K entrepreneurs...:p
I have not read that report completely, but ...
1. GC Vovek seems to say there was not a single person who left US to become an entrepreneur. This is not true 100% sure
2. The 150k might be spread over last 20 years, or 10 years at least, or ever since the backlogs became an issue. This means the figure drops to about 15k per year, which sounds much more plausible
The answer may well lie somewhere in between..
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sk2006
04-23 01:03 AM
First and foremost we are a nation of laws, or as we are all anticipated? But years of previous administrations have neglected the illegal immigrant problem, to the detriment of American workers.
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Brittanicus,
Would you or NumbersUSA, still be so mad on illegal immigration if illegal immigrants were WHITE EUROPEANS instead of brown skinned mexian people?
Please search your soul and reply to this question honestly.
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Brittanicus,
Would you or NumbersUSA, still be so mad on illegal immigration if illegal immigrants were WHITE EUROPEANS instead of brown skinned mexian people?
Please search your soul and reply to this question honestly.
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meridiani.planum
10-13 02:26 PM
Almost everyone knows USCIS rule that EAD can be applied 120 days in advance before previous EAD expires and normal processing time for EAD is 90 days.
With few exceptions, people are applying in time. They have other issue such as one person got in 6 days. In 20-30 days it is not uncommon.
You are one of the few people who did not apply EAD in time and trying to draw attention.
yeah for EAD they should clarify that if its pending >90 days, then we should walk into local office and walk out with interim EAD. afterall USCIS's own guidelines require them to approve within 90 days.
AP is a bigger problem I think. Processing times are running into 5 months and we can apply only upto 4 months in advance. meaning there is a very high likelyhood of ending up in a monthwhere you dont have an AP. If you need to travel in that time, you are screwed.
With few exceptions, people are applying in time. They have other issue such as one person got in 6 days. In 20-30 days it is not uncommon.
You are one of the few people who did not apply EAD in time and trying to draw attention.
yeah for EAD they should clarify that if its pending >90 days, then we should walk into local office and walk out with interim EAD. afterall USCIS's own guidelines require them to approve within 90 days.
AP is a bigger problem I think. Processing times are running into 5 months and we can apply only upto 4 months in advance. meaning there is a very high likelyhood of ending up in a monthwhere you dont have an AP. If you need to travel in that time, you are screwed.
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waltz
08-24 02:05 PM
I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but the show is based on the following study:
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Kauffman Foundation Study Points to �Brain-Drain� of Skilled U.S. Immigrant Entrepreneurs to Home Country
Contacts:
Barbara Pruitt, 816-932-1288, bpruitt@kauffman.org, Kauffman Foundation
Tom Phillips, 212-935-4655, comptwp@aol.com, Communication Partners
More than a million skilled foreign nationals in the United States, including doctors and scientists, face mounting visa backlog
(KANSAS CITY, Mo.) Aug. 22, 2007 � More than one million skilled immigrant workers, including scientists, engineers, doctors and researchers and their families, are competing for 120,000 permanent U.S. resident visas each year, creating a sizeable imbalance likely to fuel a �reverse brain-drain� with skilled workers returning to their home country, according to a new report released today by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation.
The situation is even bleaker as the number of employment visas issued to immigrants from any single country is less than 10,000 per year with a wait time of several years.
�The United States benefits from having foreign-born innovators create their ideas in this country,� said Vivek Wadhwa, Wertheim fellow with the Harvard Law School and executive in residence at Duke University. �Their departures would be detrimental to U.S. economic well-being. And, when foreigners come to the United States, collaborate with Americans in developing and patenting new ideas, and employ those ideas in business in ways they could not readily do in their home countries, the world benefits.�
Conducted by researchers at Duke University, New York University and Harvard University, the study is the third in a series of studies focusing on immigrants� contributions to the competitiveness of the U.S. economy. Earlier research revealed a dramatic increase in the contributions of foreign nationals to U.S. intellectual property over an eight-year period.
In this study, "Intellectual Property, the Immigration Backlog, and a Reverse Brain-Drain," researchers offer a more refined measure of this rise in contributions of foreign nationals to U.S. intellectual property and seek to explain this increase with an analysis of the immigrant-visa backlog for skilled workers. The key finding from this research is that the number of skilled workers waiting for visas is significantly larger than the number that can be admitted to the United States. This imbalance creates the potential for a sizeable reverse brain-drain from the United States to the skilled workers� home countries.
The earlier studies, �America�s New Immigrant Entrepreneurs� and �Entrepreneurship, Education and Immigration: America�s New Immigrant Entrepreneurs, Part II,� documented that one in four engineering and technology companies founded between 1995 and 2005 had an immigrant founder. Researchers found that these companies employed 450,000 workers and generated $52 billion in revenue in 2006. Indian immigrants founded more companies than the next four groups (from the United Kingdom, China, Taiwan and Japan) combined.
Furthermore, these companies� founders tended to be highly educated in science, technology, math and engineering-related disciplines, with 96 percent holding bachelor�s degrees and 75 percent holding master�s or PhD degrees.
Among key findings in the most recent report:
Foreign nationals residing in the United States were named as inventors or co-inventors in 25.6 percent of international patent applications filed from the United States in 2006. This represents an increase from 7.6 percent in 1998.
Foreign nationals contributed to more than half of the international patents filed by a number of large, multi-national companies, including Qualcomm (72 percent), Merck & Co. (65 percent), General Electric (64 percent), Siemens (63 percent) and Cisco (60 percent). Forty-one percent of the patents filed by the U.S. government had foreign nationals as inventors or co-inventors.
In 2006, 16.8 percent of international patent applications from the United States had an inventor or co-inventor with a Chinese-heritage name, representing an increase from 11.2 percent in 1998. The contribution of inventors with Indian-heritage names increased to 13.7 percent from 9.5 percent in the same period.
The total number of employment-based principals in the employment-based categories and their family members waiting for legal permanent residence in the United States in 2006 was estimated at 1,055,084. Additionally, there are an estimated 126,421 residents abroad also waiting for employment-based U.S. legal permanent residence, adding up to a worldwide total of 1,181,505.
Using data from the New Immigrant Survey, the authors find that, in 2003, approximately one in five new legal immigrants in the United States and about one in three employment-based new legal immigrants either planned to leave the United States or were uncertain about remaining. The authors had no data on how many foreign nationals have actually returned to their homelands.
�Given that the U.S. comparative advantage in the global economy is in creating knowledge and applying it to business, it behooves the country to consider how we might adjust policies to reduce the immigration backlog, encourage innovative foreign minds to remain in the country, and entice new innovators to come,� said Robert Litan, vice president of Research and Policy at the Kauffman Foundation.
About the research team
For more information about the Global Engineering and Entrepreneurship research at Duke University, visit http://www.globalizationresearch.com; visit http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/lwp/ to learn about Harvard Law�s Labor and Worklife Program; and visit http://www.nyu.edu/ for more information about New York University.
Read the report
************************************************
Kauffman Foundation Study Points to �Brain-Drain� of Skilled U.S. Immigrant Entrepreneurs to Home Country
Contacts:
Barbara Pruitt, 816-932-1288, bpruitt@kauffman.org, Kauffman Foundation
Tom Phillips, 212-935-4655, comptwp@aol.com, Communication Partners
More than a million skilled foreign nationals in the United States, including doctors and scientists, face mounting visa backlog
(KANSAS CITY, Mo.) Aug. 22, 2007 � More than one million skilled immigrant workers, including scientists, engineers, doctors and researchers and their families, are competing for 120,000 permanent U.S. resident visas each year, creating a sizeable imbalance likely to fuel a �reverse brain-drain� with skilled workers returning to their home country, according to a new report released today by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation.
The situation is even bleaker as the number of employment visas issued to immigrants from any single country is less than 10,000 per year with a wait time of several years.
�The United States benefits from having foreign-born innovators create their ideas in this country,� said Vivek Wadhwa, Wertheim fellow with the Harvard Law School and executive in residence at Duke University. �Their departures would be detrimental to U.S. economic well-being. And, when foreigners come to the United States, collaborate with Americans in developing and patenting new ideas, and employ those ideas in business in ways they could not readily do in their home countries, the world benefits.�
Conducted by researchers at Duke University, New York University and Harvard University, the study is the third in a series of studies focusing on immigrants� contributions to the competitiveness of the U.S. economy. Earlier research revealed a dramatic increase in the contributions of foreign nationals to U.S. intellectual property over an eight-year period.
In this study, "Intellectual Property, the Immigration Backlog, and a Reverse Brain-Drain," researchers offer a more refined measure of this rise in contributions of foreign nationals to U.S. intellectual property and seek to explain this increase with an analysis of the immigrant-visa backlog for skilled workers. The key finding from this research is that the number of skilled workers waiting for visas is significantly larger than the number that can be admitted to the United States. This imbalance creates the potential for a sizeable reverse brain-drain from the United States to the skilled workers� home countries.
The earlier studies, �America�s New Immigrant Entrepreneurs� and �Entrepreneurship, Education and Immigration: America�s New Immigrant Entrepreneurs, Part II,� documented that one in four engineering and technology companies founded between 1995 and 2005 had an immigrant founder. Researchers found that these companies employed 450,000 workers and generated $52 billion in revenue in 2006. Indian immigrants founded more companies than the next four groups (from the United Kingdom, China, Taiwan and Japan) combined.
Furthermore, these companies� founders tended to be highly educated in science, technology, math and engineering-related disciplines, with 96 percent holding bachelor�s degrees and 75 percent holding master�s or PhD degrees.
Among key findings in the most recent report:
Foreign nationals residing in the United States were named as inventors or co-inventors in 25.6 percent of international patent applications filed from the United States in 2006. This represents an increase from 7.6 percent in 1998.
Foreign nationals contributed to more than half of the international patents filed by a number of large, multi-national companies, including Qualcomm (72 percent), Merck & Co. (65 percent), General Electric (64 percent), Siemens (63 percent) and Cisco (60 percent). Forty-one percent of the patents filed by the U.S. government had foreign nationals as inventors or co-inventors.
In 2006, 16.8 percent of international patent applications from the United States had an inventor or co-inventor with a Chinese-heritage name, representing an increase from 11.2 percent in 1998. The contribution of inventors with Indian-heritage names increased to 13.7 percent from 9.5 percent in the same period.
The total number of employment-based principals in the employment-based categories and their family members waiting for legal permanent residence in the United States in 2006 was estimated at 1,055,084. Additionally, there are an estimated 126,421 residents abroad also waiting for employment-based U.S. legal permanent residence, adding up to a worldwide total of 1,181,505.
Using data from the New Immigrant Survey, the authors find that, in 2003, approximately one in five new legal immigrants in the United States and about one in three employment-based new legal immigrants either planned to leave the United States or were uncertain about remaining. The authors had no data on how many foreign nationals have actually returned to their homelands.
�Given that the U.S. comparative advantage in the global economy is in creating knowledge and applying it to business, it behooves the country to consider how we might adjust policies to reduce the immigration backlog, encourage innovative foreign minds to remain in the country, and entice new innovators to come,� said Robert Litan, vice president of Research and Policy at the Kauffman Foundation.
About the research team
For more information about the Global Engineering and Entrepreneurship research at Duke University, visit http://www.globalizationresearch.com; visit http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/lwp/ to learn about Harvard Law�s Labor and Worklife Program; and visit http://www.nyu.edu/ for more information about New York University.
Read the report
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chris
02-05 09:02 PM
One time one IO told me once you file your 485 or any application means USCIS is working on your case. You have to wait until they mail a decission. (what are we going to do though :p)
Here under review means same above meaning. Since your PD is not current. Even though they are working on your case doesn't mean any thing. :p
Good luck though. (we are seeing on forums that people are getting GCs without PD's are current.) :mad:
Cris,
I just called teh number and was able to talk to the officer.. he said the case under review.. means.. Any idea.
Thanks again.
Here under review means same above meaning. Since your PD is not current. Even though they are working on your case doesn't mean any thing. :p
Good luck though. (we are seeing on forums that people are getting GCs without PD's are current.) :mad:
Cris,
I just called teh number and was able to talk to the officer.. he said the case under review.. means.. Any idea.
Thanks again.
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houston2005
08-21 11:26 AM
It is my turn to receive the "Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident" today. My depenedents are yet to receive this mail. This forum, Immigration-law, Immigration portal by Rajiv Khanna and many other immigration lawyers' websites like Murthy's etc were very useful to understand the immigration laws.
I did everything myself (EB2-NIW - India) - I140, I485, AP and EAD and my PD (I140 RD) and I485 RD are 08-30-2005.
I did make a one time conribution of $100.00 to IV.
Thanks a lot. All the best to all.
Congrats.
Which service center did you applied to. I have similar PD (8/22/05) and EB2 NIW at TSC.
I did everything myself (EB2-NIW - India) - I140, I485, AP and EAD and my PD (I140 RD) and I485 RD are 08-30-2005.
I did make a one time conribution of $100.00 to IV.
Thanks a lot. All the best to all.
Congrats.
Which service center did you applied to. I have similar PD (8/22/05) and EB2 NIW at TSC.
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amitjoey
07-13 05:58 PM
Alright.. I had the power (zee.. I am so powerful) to give you some reputation in IV society and I did that because you sound like a very nice person. :D
Now go and do some good work for this society like donating money to IV or doing volunteer work.. something of that nature to build up more reputation. :D
It's good to find humor in difficult times like yesterday and today. I have seen so many funny posts today that I have been laughing my head off despite the uncertainty surrounding VB fiasco.
Thanks GCard_Dream
Now go and do some good work for this society like donating money to IV or doing volunteer work.. something of that nature to build up more reputation. :D
It's good to find humor in difficult times like yesterday and today. I have seen so many funny posts today that I have been laughing my head off despite the uncertainty surrounding VB fiasco.
Thanks GCard_Dream
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piyu7444
10-14 06:33 PM
I am in a similar situation...filed for AP in June...mine got approved...wife's AP has not gotten approved yet....planning to travel in early December.
I tried expediting for financial loss and got email saying that is not enough reason....
I am thinking of refiling my wife's I131 and paying the extra $300...now. What do you guys think...is there a chance of approval before end of November or is it a lost cause...
Its late if you want to go in early dec. If money is not a concern I would still try............
I tried expediting for financial loss and got email saying that is not enough reason....
I am thinking of refiling my wife's I131 and paying the extra $300...now. What do you guys think...is there a chance of approval before end of November or is it a lost cause...
Its late if you want to go in early dec. If money is not a concern I would still try............
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dazed
07-19 07:35 AM
If you are sponsoring your spouse, you need to submit an affidavit of support. It is I-134. This forms needs for you to submit bank statements, tax returns etc. with it.
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chicagobuddy
05-25 01:02 PM
thanks dude..
if you don't mind, can you please answer few questions?
Did u take help from any third party guys who arrange things for you like bank draft/getting mexican permit and other stuff?
Could you list out documents you carried for stamping?
if you don't mind, can you please answer few questions?
Did u take help from any third party guys who arrange things for you like bank draft/getting mexican permit and other stuff?
Could you list out documents you carried for stamping?
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logiclife
04-13 11:23 AM
We have to first have confidence on our own strengths. We are a 10.5K strong group and well poised to become the largest grassroots advocacy organization of high skilled immigrants.
Key lawmaker offices now know us. We have appeared in top media. We have the best Lobbyists in the country working for us.
No other organization can claim such success in 1 year since inception. All we need is support of $20/month from members in order to continue this effort and grow it.
There are people in Washington DC who influence congress as their profession. They are called "Lobbyists". Like the ones we have hired, with Patton-Boggs.
And then there is an organization like Immigration Voice that is raising funds to pay for lobbying.
What value can an Indian American organization add that Immigration Voice and professional lobbying cannot add?
Indian American Organizations have been educated many many times about this problem by Immigration Voice. We have told them that if you represent the 2.3 million Indian American Community, then you should be working on this issue, because this issue affects 1 out of every 5 Indian Americans of that 2.3 million.
Well, they have shown very lukewarm response.
And frankly, they have other agendas and we shouldnt honestly expect them to do our bidding.
We call ourselves highly skilled, implying that we are reasonably wellpaid. Also, we are 500,000 strong. And we have an organization to raise money and pay for lobbying. So why CANT WE HELP OURSELVES?
Key lawmaker offices now know us. We have appeared in top media. We have the best Lobbyists in the country working for us.
No other organization can claim such success in 1 year since inception. All we need is support of $20/month from members in order to continue this effort and grow it.
There are people in Washington DC who influence congress as their profession. They are called "Lobbyists". Like the ones we have hired, with Patton-Boggs.
And then there is an organization like Immigration Voice that is raising funds to pay for lobbying.
What value can an Indian American organization add that Immigration Voice and professional lobbying cannot add?
Indian American Organizations have been educated many many times about this problem by Immigration Voice. We have told them that if you represent the 2.3 million Indian American Community, then you should be working on this issue, because this issue affects 1 out of every 5 Indian Americans of that 2.3 million.
Well, they have shown very lukewarm response.
And frankly, they have other agendas and we shouldnt honestly expect them to do our bidding.
We call ourselves highly skilled, implying that we are reasonably wellpaid. Also, we are 500,000 strong. And we have an organization to raise money and pay for lobbying. So why CANT WE HELP OURSELVES?
FKFish
01-30 10:31 PM
hi,
I am on h1b EB3 and my 485 is pending since July 2007. I will get married soon and my wife is on F1. It seems I'd better to get married before my 485 approval in order to add her into my 485, right? (My PD is 2004 July which is not current. ) If this is true, since my PD is not current, can I file her 485 now, just add to my 485 or I have to wait until my PD becomes current again?
Many Thanks.
I am on h1b EB3 and my 485 is pending since July 2007. I will get married soon and my wife is on F1. It seems I'd better to get married before my 485 approval in order to add her into my 485, right? (My PD is 2004 July which is not current. ) If this is true, since my PD is not current, can I file her 485 now, just add to my 485 or I have to wait until my PD becomes current again?
Many Thanks.
brawn81
11-25 03:32 PM
Good work, but small modification.
Just take out this phrase in the list
or increase them to rational levels such as 10%-15%
Just take out this phrase in the list
or increase them to rational levels such as 10%-15%
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