sledge_hammer
01-30 05:15 PM
Exactly!!
Unfortunate that many did not get your sarcasm and might have given you bad reps. No worries, I gave you a green :)
And none of us should even complain when millions of illegals are suddenly made legal by the Government and they jump the line in front of us for no fault of ours and there are EB3s still waiting from 2001. The illegals have taken a risk right by jumping across the border and staying here illegally???
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Unfortunate that many did not get your sarcasm and might have given you bad reps. No worries, I gave you a green :)
And none of us should even complain when millions of illegals are suddenly made legal by the Government and they jump the line in front of us for no fault of ours and there are EB3s still waiting from 2001. The illegals have taken a risk right by jumping across the border and staying here illegally???
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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immi_seeker
09-13 09:21 PM
Guys,
Given the EB3 situtation.....most EB3 will convert to EB2 and flood EB2. This is going to happen soon. More money for USCIS.....EB2 will become U
Not in the current economy though. With 10% joblesseness all PERM (whether EB2 or EB3) are highly scrutnized. Forget about PERM even the simple Hi1B stamping is having huge issues.
Given the EB3 situtation.....most EB3 will convert to EB2 and flood EB2. This is going to happen soon. More money for USCIS.....EB2 will become U
Not in the current economy though. With 10% joblesseness all PERM (whether EB2 or EB3) are highly scrutnized. Forget about PERM even the simple Hi1B stamping is having huge issues.
rongha_2000
06-01 04:18 PM
Called my state (MO) senator. The staffer listened very patiently and thanked me for raising the issue. I will be calling others soon.
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07-06 11:16 PM
I like the CD idea very much. Ithink it will attrack attention. Have not heared money people doing it for the purpose of protest.
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abracadabra102
12-17 12:01 PM
"To be without some of the things you want is an indispensable part of happiness."
- Bertrand Russel (Conquest of Happiness)
Sounds counterintuitive but probably true.
- Bertrand Russel (Conquest of Happiness)
Sounds counterintuitive but probably true.
delax
07-27 01:48 PM
Under the latest interpretation, EB3-I India will not get benefit until EB3-ROW gets benefit. So EB3-ROW benefiting will eventually benefit Eb3-I. That is the logical background.
The other two issues , which provided temporary relief, would have been redundant If we had recaptured the visas. Most of us, across the EB category/Country, would have been current or near current , rendering these issues redundant.
IV still went ahead with it (I am glad) knowing fully well recapture is difficult issue.
So no harm in EB3-I seeking temporary relief while still joining forces on the recapture issue.
Now you need to explain How EB3-I seeking favorable interpretation of spill over distribution undermines "Recapture effort". How are these related??
Chmur; I appreciate your post. For the sake of a discussion could you share what is the temporary relief that you are seeking. I am curious to know the details. Is it
1. Revert back to the vertical spillover rule. OR
2. Revert back to vertical spillover rule and after EB3-ROW becomes current split the visas equally between EB2-I and EB3-I OR
3. Keep the horizontal spill over in place but any spill over from EB2 ROW should go equally to EB2-Retro and EB3 (ROW and Retro) category.
Let me offer my answers to the questions above:
1. In this case EB3-I is no better off as EB3ROW and EB2-I has to become current before any excess visas can go to EB3-I.
2. Completely negates the categorization as laid out by law after the initial handout is done equally. Is a hybrid approach where the vertical rule would be enforced so long as EB2 and EB3 (both ROW) are current. But after that a selective interpretation of the vertical rule is sought where EB2-I and EB3-I share it equally. The basis of this selective interpretation appears to be length of wait - nowhere does the INA state that length of wait can be used as a basis for negating categorization of EB category.
3. Is against the law - read my earlier post. Again selectively uses horizontal spill over till EB2 ROW demand is satisfied and then use vertical spill over to share visas between EB2-Retro and EB3 category.
I completely respect your right to lobby for change. However I am a little baffled as to how this change can be sought without changing law. Even if the change is approved, I see a strong possibility of a counter EB2 movement to nullify this change. I would appreciate any details from you anybody else on this. Cheers
The other two issues , which provided temporary relief, would have been redundant If we had recaptured the visas. Most of us, across the EB category/Country, would have been current or near current , rendering these issues redundant.
IV still went ahead with it (I am glad) knowing fully well recapture is difficult issue.
So no harm in EB3-I seeking temporary relief while still joining forces on the recapture issue.
Now you need to explain How EB3-I seeking favorable interpretation of spill over distribution undermines "Recapture effort". How are these related??
Chmur; I appreciate your post. For the sake of a discussion could you share what is the temporary relief that you are seeking. I am curious to know the details. Is it
1. Revert back to the vertical spillover rule. OR
2. Revert back to vertical spillover rule and after EB3-ROW becomes current split the visas equally between EB2-I and EB3-I OR
3. Keep the horizontal spill over in place but any spill over from EB2 ROW should go equally to EB2-Retro and EB3 (ROW and Retro) category.
Let me offer my answers to the questions above:
1. In this case EB3-I is no better off as EB3ROW and EB2-I has to become current before any excess visas can go to EB3-I.
2. Completely negates the categorization as laid out by law after the initial handout is done equally. Is a hybrid approach where the vertical rule would be enforced so long as EB2 and EB3 (both ROW) are current. But after that a selective interpretation of the vertical rule is sought where EB2-I and EB3-I share it equally. The basis of this selective interpretation appears to be length of wait - nowhere does the INA state that length of wait can be used as a basis for negating categorization of EB category.
3. Is against the law - read my earlier post. Again selectively uses horizontal spill over till EB2 ROW demand is satisfied and then use vertical spill over to share visas between EB2-Retro and EB3 category.
I completely respect your right to lobby for change. However I am a little baffled as to how this change can be sought without changing law. Even if the change is approved, I see a strong possibility of a counter EB2 movement to nullify this change. I would appreciate any details from you anybody else on this. Cheers
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06-20 01:30 PM
No reason to loose energy. Enjoy what you have and make the best out of it. Agree, this should be the way everybody lives his/her life. While you have little control of it, just enjoy your time as you usually do. Eat your favorite food, love your love, don't let anything behind because of this issue.
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12-26 10:46 AM
I didnt have to open an SR to get the FP.
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letstalklc
07-20 11:09 AM
Sanhari,
If GCs were sold in stores I would buy you and your family a bunch of them.
You are in the EB3 category, do you ever wonder why somebody who is more educated than you or me, makes more money? Can we say, hey you I was born in 1890 I should make more money, it does not fly, EB3 is not a reflection on your skills but more the job you hold.
The question you should ask is why have EB1, 2, 3, etc?
Why do you not include the family based categories, isn't family first, why not the EB spill over to to FB first then whatever trickles down comes to EB, is not this fair? I am sure there are a lot in the FB queue who have waited for longer than you. Now dont tell you you are better than FB because you are highly skilled, pay taxes, etc.
You signed up for this knowing what was in store.
You think writing a letter or starting up a thread is going to help?
I just wonder, is IV some kind of therapy? something like weightwatchers,
maybe we should call ourselves GCWatchers, for frustrated GC folks from India.
Tell me this, are your bosses fools to sponsor you in EB3, do they not know it will take years? No they are not, ask yourself why?
India is shining, not a bad proposition at all.
Well said my friend.....
If GCs were sold in stores I would buy you and your family a bunch of them.
You are in the EB3 category, do you ever wonder why somebody who is more educated than you or me, makes more money? Can we say, hey you I was born in 1890 I should make more money, it does not fly, EB3 is not a reflection on your skills but more the job you hold.
The question you should ask is why have EB1, 2, 3, etc?
Why do you not include the family based categories, isn't family first, why not the EB spill over to to FB first then whatever trickles down comes to EB, is not this fair? I am sure there are a lot in the FB queue who have waited for longer than you. Now dont tell you you are better than FB because you are highly skilled, pay taxes, etc.
You signed up for this knowing what was in store.
You think writing a letter or starting up a thread is going to help?
I just wonder, is IV some kind of therapy? something like weightwatchers,
maybe we should call ourselves GCWatchers, for frustrated GC folks from India.
Tell me this, are your bosses fools to sponsor you in EB3, do they not know it will take years? No they are not, ask yourself why?
India is shining, not a bad proposition at all.
Well said my friend.....
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eb3_nepa
08-13 02:19 PM
This is the latest USCIS scheme (read SCAM)!!
Accept everything but issue notices at a snail's pace citing the "fee increase" as the reason for "front log" (btw what the heck is a FRONT LOG???)
Until you dont receive the notices you cant avail of the benefits anyways. In the meantime, without any notice they change processing times and take away interim benefits as they see fit.
Correct me if i am wrong but is the situation improving or getting worse?
Accept everything but issue notices at a snail's pace citing the "fee increase" as the reason for "front log" (btw what the heck is a FRONT LOG???)
Until you dont receive the notices you cant avail of the benefits anyways. In the meantime, without any notice they change processing times and take away interim benefits as they see fit.
Correct me if i am wrong but is the situation improving or getting worse?
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msp1976
05-02 01:18 PM
I have read many bills in last year and a half. There are a bunch of such bills pending..The problem is that they just stay pending...Unless that gets placed on the senate calender introducing the bill is useless...
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MeraNaamJoker
08-21 11:02 AM
Thanx to Libra, skidude, vkrishn, gkattalu, bindoke, andycool ....
I feel much better. These are trying times for sure.
Loads of work at the office, moving from one city to another and above all...this frustrating wait --- Its 2 much 2 handle. But I'm with u guyz...I think I shud just STFU N wait.
Buddy,
This is an ultimate test from above on our patience.
I waited for a very long 10+ yrs for my process to complete. Will you beleive that during the first 3 yrs of my application all the categories were current. The very next month when my labor got approved it went to retrogression. Before I got greened 2 weeks back, the dates became current for 3 times. I missed all 3 times. Last one was becuase of idiot lawyer (her firm is one of the largest immigration law firms in the entire country) sat on it and did not provide a required paper work.
After that the wait got extended for another 3 more yrs. finally got it on early part of this month. With the same process I was laid off once. Ported the process out. Then second company tried to ditch me the process. Ran away from their with the process. Got really lucky. From 3rd company I was forced to take a package and leave. Got lucky there too to port the case for a record 3rd time. Filed AC21 with the 4th company. Later filed I 140 again (i don't know why. The lawyer of the cmpany insisted). Got that once also approved.
Spend almost 38,000.00 dollars in all these various processes. After all these waited for almost another 2 yrs again and finally it arrived.....
So each story is different. Each has got its own colors. I have worst situations than mine. Just hang in there buddy. Your turn is round the corner. It is on its way.
I feel much better. These are trying times for sure.
Loads of work at the office, moving from one city to another and above all...this frustrating wait --- Its 2 much 2 handle. But I'm with u guyz...I think I shud just STFU N wait.
Buddy,
This is an ultimate test from above on our patience.
I waited for a very long 10+ yrs for my process to complete. Will you beleive that during the first 3 yrs of my application all the categories were current. The very next month when my labor got approved it went to retrogression. Before I got greened 2 weeks back, the dates became current for 3 times. I missed all 3 times. Last one was becuase of idiot lawyer (her firm is one of the largest immigration law firms in the entire country) sat on it and did not provide a required paper work.
After that the wait got extended for another 3 more yrs. finally got it on early part of this month. With the same process I was laid off once. Ported the process out. Then second company tried to ditch me the process. Ran away from their with the process. Got really lucky. From 3rd company I was forced to take a package and leave. Got lucky there too to port the case for a record 3rd time. Filed AC21 with the 4th company. Later filed I 140 again (i don't know why. The lawyer of the cmpany insisted). Got that once also approved.
Spend almost 38,000.00 dollars in all these various processes. After all these waited for almost another 2 yrs again and finally it arrived.....
So each story is different. Each has got its own colors. I have worst situations than mine. Just hang in there buddy. Your turn is round the corner. It is on its way.
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11-18 03:05 PM
Sent the email and received email from John Kerry. I donated $100 this afternoon and still do not have access to the Donor Forum? Is there anything more to get access?
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JunRN
10-04 08:22 PM
EAD Receipt # is different from i485 Receipt #. What i know though is that i485 receipting is a pre-requisite of EAD receipting.
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Jimi_Hendrix
12-13 11:52 AM
I agree whole-heartedly.
Senators/Congressmen are rational, smart and intelligent people. We HAVE to apprise them of our situation.
We have a legitimate, common sense and good cause on our side.
In this time of globalization and increased competition, do the senators/congressmen really want this country to lose half a million highly skilled, experienced and trained-in-America-for-years people to India and China, and to Europe and canada?
If they put 'holds' or refuse to take up our cause after they are fully aware of our situation, then atleast you know that they are doing it out of racism and/or narrow political and parochial motives.
But unless we make our situation known to these guys, we shouldn't really blame them.......Also, those with kids born in America might get more of a response from the legislators.
It is pathetic that there is a thread from NJ, and the guy is begging people to join/respond; it is mind-boggling that there are only seven members from NJ. It is absolutely ridiculous that the only two responses on the 'Calling all Wisconsin members' have been from myself, and another person. And that other person is from Illinois......
Can there be any guidance from the core team about personalizing our stories, and making those known to the legislators?
Alisa, sadly that is the problem. Not enough people want to pick up the spade and work with the NJ or other chapters. I hope that more and more people will realize that creating awareness among politicians is the first step to getting their support when some bill comes up for discussion.
Senators/Congressmen are rational, smart and intelligent people. We HAVE to apprise them of our situation.
We have a legitimate, common sense and good cause on our side.
In this time of globalization and increased competition, do the senators/congressmen really want this country to lose half a million highly skilled, experienced and trained-in-America-for-years people to India and China, and to Europe and canada?
If they put 'holds' or refuse to take up our cause after they are fully aware of our situation, then atleast you know that they are doing it out of racism and/or narrow political and parochial motives.
But unless we make our situation known to these guys, we shouldn't really blame them.......Also, those with kids born in America might get more of a response from the legislators.
It is pathetic that there is a thread from NJ, and the guy is begging people to join/respond; it is mind-boggling that there are only seven members from NJ. It is absolutely ridiculous that the only two responses on the 'Calling all Wisconsin members' have been from myself, and another person. And that other person is from Illinois......
Can there be any guidance from the core team about personalizing our stories, and making those known to the legislators?
Alisa, sadly that is the problem. Not enough people want to pick up the spade and work with the NJ or other chapters. I hope that more and more people will realize that creating awareness among politicians is the first step to getting their support when some bill comes up for discussion.
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06-12 11:14 AM
Hi,
I filed on June 5th and TSC received my package on June 6th. Still my Checks hasnt cleared.
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akred
05-01 12:40 AM
A plain reading of the INA supports this contention. But then the USCIS always works in mysterious ways.
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GCapplicant
07-27 10:09 PM
Where the hell all these guys when EB3 is getting 80K to 100K of total 140K visas all these years and EB2 is getting just merely 10%-15%. Nobody from EB2 didn't felt jealous like this before. It is hard to digest for them now.
Hi Dpp
kindly dont use hell ! jealous , these type of words are not required for any argument.
If you want EB2 I to get the visas and move forward...it will.
I understand u r EB2 ....EB3 I is frustrated...like how you want ur GC its the same line EB3 I is also.
The guys from EB3I have been waiting all these years.
Its the DOL's mistake for the delay of labor approvals ,hence the visa wastage.Otherwise this backlog for EB3 I woudnt have been there in the first place.
The two years standard gap would have been maintained there for EB3 I and EB2 I as usual.
When there is no movement ,this will be the reaction for the EB3 I people.
When you are eager for yr Gc ,the same rule applies for everone.
There is a big block EB3 row in between -so dont say all the visas were taken by Eb3 I only.
Did you know the visa flow earlier?
I never knew.People learn by experience.
These frustrations are not jealousy...Eb3 I is suffering and waiting for a solution.
kindly dont under estimate anyone's feelings.Every family here is undergoing pressures and agony.
I participated in the mail campaign... We are fighting for the lost justice.
Let us team as one and work best.Ever one deserves their own share.
I am not here for any argument.
Hi Dpp
kindly dont use hell ! jealous , these type of words are not required for any argument.
If you want EB2 I to get the visas and move forward...it will.
I understand u r EB2 ....EB3 I is frustrated...like how you want ur GC its the same line EB3 I is also.
The guys from EB3I have been waiting all these years.
Its the DOL's mistake for the delay of labor approvals ,hence the visa wastage.Otherwise this backlog for EB3 I woudnt have been there in the first place.
The two years standard gap would have been maintained there for EB3 I and EB2 I as usual.
When there is no movement ,this will be the reaction for the EB3 I people.
When you are eager for yr Gc ,the same rule applies for everone.
There is a big block EB3 row in between -so dont say all the visas were taken by Eb3 I only.
Did you know the visa flow earlier?
I never knew.People learn by experience.
These frustrations are not jealousy...Eb3 I is suffering and waiting for a solution.
kindly dont under estimate anyone's feelings.Every family here is undergoing pressures and agony.
I participated in the mail campaign... We are fighting for the lost justice.
Let us team as one and work best.Ever one deserves their own share.
I am not here for any argument.
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gc_on_demand
05-08 03:12 PM
I dont believe in flower/food/sos campaigns to resolve this problem...just because it worked once before doesnt mean it is going to work again..have we pursued a class action lawsuit against Department of State/Labor/USCIS for unlawful discrimination based on the country of birth in Employment Based Visas. Any idea if IV core ever took up this path? Can we attempt to do this? What are the costs involved and can we get some good lawyer representation to this goal?
You can only go in court if some agency is not following law disigned by congress. You cannot challenge congress in Court to change law.
Please contribute / Join State chapter / join evey campaign by IV . We have plan to fight for counrty cap along with recapture and some other stuff.
So Please join and ask your friends to join.
You can only go in court if some agency is not following law disigned by congress. You cannot challenge congress in Court to change law.
Please contribute / Join State chapter / join evey campaign by IV . We have plan to fight for counrty cap along with recapture and some other stuff.
So Please join and ask your friends to join.
drona
07-09 06:05 PM
Done! Although we might get protests from people claiming this is more Munna Bhai than Gandhigiri!
gcformeornot
03-26 09:28 PM
for me. Family already done.
Are any of you guys still waiting like me?
Are any of you guys still waiting like me?
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